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Teabaggers go NUTS!

Post by Dark Angel » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:52 am

Oh the innuendo...oh the ridiculousness of barely veiled corporate make believe news...oh the absolute joy of watching stupid powered politics. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. If only they read up on the Boston Tea Party, if only they realized what they were protesting and who's policies they are and how they effect them, if only they had looked up the real meaning of the urban slang known as "tea bagging"...but then again the rest of us who know wouldn't have so much fun laughing at their ignorance. What can I say ignorance is bliss...least till they get educated.

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Post by Gavin Shaw » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:02 am

Me confused...

I know the slang version of teabagging. Happens when you play Halo 1/2/3 over Xbox live.

But they are opposed to Obama's plans right? But when the same plans were put forward by Bush they were okay with them? So WTF is the problem? Or is there a difference in the plans that the news report doesn't cover? Or is it simply that it is Obama and not McCain?

And Fox was there for the Million Man March? Blank... That was funny...
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Post by Dark Angel » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:27 am

Gavin Shaw wrote:Me confused...

I know the slang version of teabagging. Happens when you play Halo 1/2/3 over Xbox live.

But they are opposed to Obama's plans right? But when the same plans were put forward by Bush they were okay with them? So WTF is the problem? Or is there a difference in the plans that the news report doesn't cover? Or is it simply that it is Obama and not McCain?

And Fox was there for the Million Man March? Blank... That was funny...
Well I think the crazy people are still trying to come to a consensus regarding what the voices in their heads are telling them they stand for...these are a very rare breed that we now refer to as political lemmings. I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop when they all realize they've been duped into jumping off the cliff...I think it might look something like this...

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Post by Labbie » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:43 pm

No different than the George Soros financed Code Pink group. Didn't see you calling them fools.

And ACORN is countering with "Raise the Taxes" protests today too.

http://taxdayteaparty.com/
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Post by Dark Angel » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:52 am

Labbie wrote:No different than the George Soros financed Code Pink group. Didn't see you calling them fools.

And ACORN is countering with "Raise the Taxes" protests today too.

http://taxdayteaparty.com/
First off Labbie you're trying to make a distraction by playing the code pink card, but as such it must be answered. By your statement you stretch to make the association that because I don't say anything about them I must support them by default...which is funny in an of itself though flawed in logic.

I don't say anything about code pink because, well simply put Code Pink does a great job of that themselves...there's no need to point anything out when they so willingly make spectacles of themselves...they aren't trying to be something other then what they are and they state very clearly what they are protesting...unlike some.

As for your statement that ACORN is countering with "Raise the Taxes" (who makes these lines up anyway) protests...not even close...one has to look no farther then the groups themselves to see the motive...clearly written in black and white for all to see what they really are protesting. But watch out the ultra scary terrorist organization subverting everyones rights known as ACORN is out to get YOU...yes that's right...just you...yes the innocuous "you"...now everyone grab your tin foil helmets...the end is neigh.
ACORN vs. tea bags
Tax day is looking like nirvana for agitated activists from the left and the right.

There's been a ton of coverage of the "Tea Parties" scheduled by conservative activists around the country — Newt Gingrich is said to be attending one of these anti-tax shindigs. And then there's the threat of counter tea party protests and "infiltration" by liberal activists.

And now ACORN is getting in on the act, planning "dozens" of protests outside post offices on April 15, presumably to get the attention of last-minute tax return folks and the inevitable local media stakeouts of post offices on tax day.

According to a statement this afternoon from the liberal group Americans United for Change, ACORN and other progressive groups like AFSCME and US PIRG "will hold dozens of events outside local post offices in at least 30 states to highlight President Obama's plan to help restore fairness to the tax code, including closing an outrageous loophole in the tax code that allows offshore corporate tax havens, as called for within the president’s budget."
from Politico: http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthru ... _bags.html

What I do see is an obvious attempt to BS anyone who isn't paying attention into the lie that someone is raising your taxes...so you should be angry...real angry...because they are taking your liberty...it's socialism...it's big government...

It's B**L S**T really...and the conservative power brokers are the masters of it. The political lemmings that call themselves conservative...yep those that make less then $250,000 a year but can't think for themselves are buying it hook line and sinker. It's really sad but entertaining watching angry stupid people in large groups.

Oh just a note on T.E.A. (Taxed Enough Already) if they are taxed enough already (a rather ridiculous assertion considering) and nobody is showing any sign of raising their taxes...in fact the current administration is doing just the opposite (but the tea baggers won't admit it)...then WTF are they protesting??? The answer depends on who you ask and what planet they are from/on.
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Post by Labbie » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:34 am

Oh yeah, I'm the one deflecting the issue when you're the one dismissing them out of hand and mocking them without even listening to the message.

I thought you guys were the party of tolerance? Fat chance.
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Post by Dark Angel » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:29 am

Labbie wrote:Oh yeah, I'm the one deflecting the issue when you're the one dismissing them out of hand and mocking them without even listening to the message.

I thought you guys were the party of tolerance? Fat chance.
I listen and I tolerate them just fine...I also endure them, and pity them as a matter of course...but don't confuse my not agreeing with them or my finding their position ridiculous, with not paying attention the the facts or to what they are trying to say.

What I don't tolerate, endure, or pity is the corporate lead special interests behind this farce trying to refire the machine in hopes of jump starting the Frankenstein that the GOP has become over the years. It used to stand for something before it got tainted and now finds itself only standing in the way of the peoples will...this is one of the reasons why it's falling apart now.

When a political party is guided by religion and suffers from multiple personality syndrome...the mad dog gets put down. The issue is that the party has gone farther and farther right and as such has become more of a religious party than a political party.

The farther right it has gone the more intolerant it has become. Those of us that have watched and don't agree with it appear intolerant in conservative's eyes only because we dissent, but we are more cynics then anything. It's a coping mechanism. Cynicism and sarcasm and rage that this country and the rights that have been ours for 232 years are slowly being eroded away by the corporate and religious special interests in the name of Greed, Power, and Control.

Organized religion has been peddling dogma for control, power, and even greed for centuries. The founding fathers knew the danger inherent in religion and this was the core reason that they did a separation of church and state. In the same respect they also realized the dangers of consolidated power...and that is why we have a separation of powers...it's all about checks and balances...unfortunately it's been out of balance for some time now, and I wouldn't even begin to say it's now in balance again...the pendulum swings both ways.

Now you might look at that last paragraph and say I am or we are "Godless Liberals" but we just understand that religion needs to be kept in check as much as the special interests. There is nothing wrong with being religious and being in government however there are major issues with projecting and injecting religion into government and onto the people as this breeds intolerance. There is only one reason that religion has been trying to work it's way into government and that is greed, power and control which are one in the same ideologically speaking.

The corruption is rampant...and the spin has been spun before...and the people are no longer buying into it, well at least not the majority of them.

I do respect your position and rather enjoy the debate though. :smt001

Just a side note Labbie...before the passing of a friend of mine who I lost to Cancer a few years back I used to have political and religious discussions with him over pizza and beer...he had a PHD in Political Science and was on of the greatest devils advocates I have known...debate was something we both loved and I do miss him for that amongst other things...so when I say I respect your stance I do and when I say I enjoy the debate I do...I'm not one to get wrapped up in trying to change someone politically or religiously or philosophically but I do enjoy making people think and at times reconsider their position...and I enjoy a respectful challenge and discussion (aka Debate) from time to time too.
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Post by Labbie » Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:02 pm

You say the GOP has gone further and further to the right, while I (being one that is on the right), see them as Dem-Lite and in the middle at best these days.

And I don't see religion as being part of any of it. Of course, the Dems appear to be trying to make faith in anything but the gov't illegal, especially the Christian faith, so I guess any form of faith is brought to the front so it can be derided publically.

But I will give you credit for one thing. At least you didn't go off the deep end like Olberman and Garofalo and claim the Tea Parties were nothing but an anti black-president rally.

But what you, and most on your side, don't get, is that these rallies were not just against Obie's spending (most of us were against what Bush did last fall too), but that the states and local gov'ts are now raising taxes to cover their own budget shortfalls. These rallies were against them as well.

And if you believe that Obie is not going to affect your personal budget because you are not "rich", you better take another look. He may not increase your income tax, but he is going to nickel and dime (better make that quarter and dollar) you with lots of "fees" such as Cap & Trade, which by itself has been estimated to cost EVERY American over $3000/year in "fees".
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Post by Dark Angel » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:35 am

This article poses one of the many questions that the recent teabaggers have left unanswered.

Where Were the Teabag Protests 8 Years Ago?


Today there are supposed to be many teabag rallies across the country. They are getting together to protest reckless government spending or the large deficits the Obama administration is racking up implementing their policy. My only question is this: where were these people 8 years ago? More importantly, where were these people 30 years ago?

Under Reagan, the budget was never balanced and debt ballooned. In fact, under Reagan the total debt/GDP ratio increased from a little over 30% to a little over 60%. Yet there were no protests. And the fact the budget was never balanced didn't seem to bother anybody. Of course, you could argue that the current teabaggers weren't around then so this doesn't count.

But when Bush took office the exact same thing happened. According to the Cato Institute, the Republican Party became the "Grand Old Spending Party." Bush was the biggest spender since LBJ. Here is what the Cato Institute wrote:

President Bush has presided over the largest overall increase in inflation-adjusted federal spending since Lyndon B. Johnson. Even after excluding spending on defense and homeland security, Bush is still the biggest-spending president in 30 years. His 2006 budget doesn't cut enough spending to change his place in history, either.

Total government spending grew by 33 percent during Bush's first term. The federal budget as a share of the economy grew from 18.5 percent of GDP on Clinton's last day in office to 20.3 percent by the end of Bush's first term.

The Republican Congress has enthusiastically assisted the budget bloat. Inflation-adjusted spending on the combined budgets of the 101 largest programs they vowed to eliminate in 1995 has grown by 27 percent.

Yet there were no protests. And here is a report from the Bureau of Public Debt of the annual federal debt outstanding at the end of the last 8 federal fiscal years:

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86

To anyone with an ounce of common sense, it's obvious what's going on. Republican/conservative rank and file are protesting because they are out of power and their leadership is terrible. But they aren't protesting spending; they are protesting the Democratic Party's governance. And that is fine. But please, don't tell me it's about spending or debt. If that were the case, you guys should have taken to the streets years ago.
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